Goat Worming

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Sat, 05/11/2019 - 17:06 #1

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Brettgarland
Last seen: 05/11/2019 - 17:41
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Goat Worming

Hi Fellow farmers.

I have a little hobby farm that is growing. We have 4 goats ( 3 boar and 1 dairy) we can easily worm two of our goats by injecting Panacur directly into their mouths. However, the other two are near impossible and any whiff of it sends them running. Can I mix Panacur ( or similar) with their food with the hope they will eat it and make it a less stressful experience?

Regards,
Brett

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Mon, 05/13/2019 - 17:05 #2
barb
Last seen: 09/17/2019 - 18:07
Joined: 11/23/2011 - 09:38

Hi Brettgarland, Before I had a crush, I had collars on my goats. Before I had a crush, I used to tie them by their collar to the gate and then, with someone leaning against their back quarters would drench them. I note you are using Pancur to drench them with. In my area the round worms are resistant to it, so I use Alben by Virbac ( Albendazol ) instead. Please get back to me if you need any more help. Cheers, Barb

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Fri, 07/05/2019 - 10:10 #3
hairy goat
Last seen: 11/07/2022 - 20:12
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In my area the worms are resistant to pancur. can I use q-drench and in what dose?

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Sat, 07/06/2019 - 14:07 #4
barb
Last seen: 09/17/2019 - 18:07
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Hi Hairy goat, Most goats are resistant to Panacur -( Fenbendazole) due to the use over many years by the sheep industry. Goats as we know share the same worms as sheep. Resistance has developed to this chemical. I have done several worm counts recently for goat breeders who were using this product and the counts for Barbers Pole and Black Scour worm eggs was very high. Some of these breeders were losing many of their Boer goats due to the high worm infestation. I suggested the switch to an Albendazole containing product or to and Ivamectin containing product to get this under control. After worming, keep livestock in the same paddock for approx. 10 days to allow the eggs and dead worms to empty out and then if possible, move to a clean paddock. Cheers, Barb

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Mon, 11/07/2022 - 20:13 #10
hairy goat
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I tried serching for Ivamectin but cant find it. Can I use a pour on and did you mean Ivermectin?

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Sat, 07/06/2019 - 16:52 #5
hairy goat
Last seen: 11/07/2022 - 20:12
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Thank you for that info. So can I use Q-Drench and in what dose?

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Sun, 07/07/2019 - 08:55 #6
barb
Last seen: 09/17/2019 - 18:07
Joined: 11/23/2011 - 09:38

Hi Hairy Goat, Caution with this drench. It is very effective, but you must stick to the directions of doses for goats as it contains every commonly used drench product. It is used for strategic drenching when there is a major worm problem, where perhaps you may be losing goats. The directions for dosing should be on the pack. Separate your goats into groups of approximately the same the same weights. Then drench to highest weight in each group. do not in any circumstances under or over dose with this product. the reason is, if goats become resistant to it, they will be resistant to every group of drenches. It is a short acting drench that is effective for only a very short period of approx. 4 days. This is the phone number for the help centre of the manufacturer Jurox, of the product Free Call (Australia): 1800 023 312 . Remember the dose must be exact and this product is not for long term use. Please let us know how you go. Cheers, Barb

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Sun, 07/21/2019 - 10:33 #7
hairy goat
Last seen: 11/07/2022 - 20:12
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Hi thanks, I contacted the company and they could not help me as they only have sheep doses. I contacted the vet that originally recommended it and they gave me the goat doses which are higher then those in sheep. We do have problems with goats getting scour and we have lost some which is why the vet originally recommended it. It seems to work even though an autopsy on our goat found nothing and the worm count found nothing. It was a while ago so can't remember the exact time frame between treating and worm counts. I don't want to be treating the goats all the time but we do seem to have an ongoing problem. some goats are more resistant them others. We do rotate paddocks as well.

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Thu, 01/09/2020 - 21:19 #8
admin
Last seen: 11/13/2024 - 10:09
Joined: 02/28/2011 - 14:19

Hi Rocket,

Welcome to the small farm forum, please see the details below regarding the Q drench dosage rate. These details have been provided by our resident goat expert Barb Vincent.

Jurox Q drench dosage is as follows: Dose Guide
Dose rate 1 mL/5 kg
Liveweight (kg) Dose (mL)
11-15 3
16-20 4
21-25 5
26-30 6
31-35 7
36-40 8
41-45 9
46-50 10
51-55 11
56-60 12
61-65 13
66-70 14
71-75 15

Sheep in excess of 75 kg to be dosed at 1 mL per 5 kg bodyweight. .................................NB goats will usually need a slightly higher dose of any drench, due to the fact that they metabolise drench faster than sheep. I would add .5 ml extra per dose category. i.e. 11-15 kg 3.5 ml, 66- 70 kg 14.5 ml Your vet is quite correct. He should have explained why, I guess. But that is the reason why. If the dose is too low we risk allowing the parasites who have more resistance surviving, while only the more susceptible are killed. If this continues long enough, with only the stronger more resistant parasites surviving to breed, it will come to a stage where the drench does not work any more. As this drench contains components from all drench groups, you would have an insurmountable problem in your hands. So whatever your vet has recommended I would follow it to the letter.

We also have an active Facebook discussion group which you may like to join
https://www.facebook.com/groups/FarmStyle/

Hope this is of assistance. 

Regards,
Charlie

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Sun, 05/31/2020 - 09:14 #9
hairy goat
Last seen: 11/07/2022 - 20:12
Joined: 12/30/2017 - 20:26

Hi, how would I go with one beef cow in with my goats. I know cattle like company but would the calf settle okay with the goats for company?

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